adding freon to ac cost

What is an AC Recharge all about? For an AC system to work, it needs a gas or liquid substance called refrigerant ( R-12 Freon in older cars, R-134a in 1995 and newer cars). Over time, refrigerant can leak from the AC system through seals. If the AC does not have enough refrigerant, it will not blow cold air. Since the AC system is a sealed unit, the only way to tell if the car needs a recharge is if the AC is not blowing cold air through the vents. There are two types of refrigerant. These cannot be interchanged. For older cars, it should be filled with R12 Freon or converted to a newer system. For cars made after 1995, the AC should be filled with R134a. Install air conditioning manifold gauge set. Determine if the air conditioning system charge is low. Add the correct refrigerant to top off the air conditioning system. Install thermometer in vents to monitor vent temperatures. Check system for leaks. Check for proper operation of AC system.
It is common for refrigerant to leak. If the AC is not as cold as you expect, then it is probably a good time to have the mechanic look at it. Lack of proper cold air can be an indication of other problems with AC (fan not working, AC compressor not working, etc.). What are the common symptoms indicating you need an AC Recharge?1 ton split ac carrier price AC is not working.outside ac unit making a buzzing noise AC is not blowing cold air.auto air conditioning repair modesto ca Clicking noise from the engine compartment. How important is this service? In addition to your comfort, air conditioning systems add value to your vehicle. You should keep your AC fully operational. In some systems, the hot and cold air are blended to achieve the desired temperature setting.
In these cases, when the AC system fails, in addition to not getting any cold air, the entire temperature regulation can be thrown off.< 1 2 34 > 2 posts, read 65,903 times Originally Posted by GAwareagles51 In the middle of record setting heat (if not otherwise) set your thermostat higher than 72 What does this sound like to you. Sounds like you need to raise the thermostat a few degrees. Could be a couple of different issues. It could be airflow has dropped from a clogged coil, bad fan motor, clogged fan blades or a combination of all three. It also could just be you're using the wrong filter. Are you using a pleated type "high efficiency" filter or one of those hog hair filters? You can try taking the filter out and see if that stops the freezing (make sure the coil is completely thawed though before you try this). If that solves your problem then go buy some of the el cheapo air filters which aren't restrictive but do allow more debris to get by them.
It also could be low on refrigerant. It could also be a combination of all of the above. Without more information, which you're most likely not going to have access to, we can't help you any more than that. you'll need to call a technician. Assuming this is a 10 SEER system or less the Approach for the evaporator coil should be 35� below indoor ambient. That means at 72�F the evaporator should be operating at around 37�F. The "approach method" is the expected difference in a properly operating HVAC system between condensing/evaporating saturation points and the indoor/outdoor ambient air temperature. That should mean a higher heat load on the evaporator (unless there is an airflow problem) which wouldn't cause freezing issues. 1,940 posts, read 6,665,304 times 4,221 posts, read 7,025,500 times Originally Posted by southgeorgia For the record, the average residential system would hold less than four pounds, so that was pretty close to empty.
2,376 posts, read 4,177,108 times My first guess is a clogged air filter, this is the most common cause. If you compare a new air filter with old one, you'll notice that the new one is white and the used one is off white in color. This is when you should replace it. you should never allow it to get so clogged that it's any darker than off white in color. If your filter is OK, my next guess is the coil is clogged with dirt caused by not replacing the filter often enough. 43,216 posts, read 43,024,441 times If your filter and coil are not blocked then Your low on freon. Before you ask here is why. The pressure in the suction line is kept at a level that keeps the evaporator from freezing. If your low on freon the pressure drops in the line bringing the temperature below freezing causing it to ice from the evaporator right back to the compressor. While the line runs colder you actually lost capacity from your system from the loss of refrigerant. Loose anymore and the iceing will stop and the air coming out will start to be warm
My heat works great, but my AC is nonexistent. Just blows out normal air, which in this weather is quite hot and unpleasant. I had the refrigerant refilled two years ago, but I haven't used the car in over a year so I don't know when the AC stopped working. It was working up until the last time I used it, anyway. I was told it would be about $85 to refill the refrigerant, but that it wouldn't do me much good if I had a leak. How long should a refrigerant refill last, and how do I know if I have a leak, and if I do, what must be done to repair it? locked by Bob Cross This post has been locked due to the high amount of off-topic comments generated. For extended discussions, please use chat. Should last forever, as long as the A/C system stays sealed (which it's supposed to be). Problem is that A/C parts are quite readily damaged and leaks are very common. Solution is to find the leaks and fix them. Usually ends up being the condensor, and it's normally recommended to replace the dryer whenever the system is touched.
Those 2 alone can cost $500-1000 depending on the car. Used parts are not typically available (and if they are, they're usually not reliable anyways 'cause A/C parts are so easily damaged). Another common leak point is the compressor itself, which is equally expensive in most cases. The usual leak location protocol involves filling the system and trying to determine where it's coming out, either with an electronic detector wand or with a UV light (which requires putting dye in with the refrigerant). You can get a can of refrigerant (R134a anyway, you need a license to buy R12) and a UV light at a parts store and look for the leak yourself. I've done this to see what I'm in for in terms of a repair bill. A leaking hose in the engine bay might be an easy fix, but no sign of a leak under the hood can be a bad sign, it makes me wonder if the evaporator under the dash is leaking...lots of labor just getting to the part, there. Before adding any R134a, make sure the system is actually low first (get a can with a gauge).
Note that the pressure reading is only accurate when the compressor is running. If the compressor is fast cycling (switching on and off rapidly), the system is probably low, and the compressor is shutting off to protect itself. It should start running longer if you add some R134a. You can test for the presence of a leak without expending any R134a by sucking the system down to a vacuum. That won't tell you were the leak is (unless it's huge and you can hear the air getting back into the system), but it will tell you if you have one, and it will also give you an idea of the size of the leak (by how fast the vacuum is lost). Doing this yourself requires a vacuum pump, a shop should probably do this before adding refrigerant to a suspect system. (1) moisture in the system does NOT cause the suction line to frost up on the outside. Moisture in the system will freeze at the orifice tube or Tx valve and block the flow of refrigerant. No refrigerant flow, no cooling. But that will let the ice inside the orifice/valve melt, and it will cool again, then freeze again, and repeat forever.
(2) evap cores are actually more common failures since going to the higher pressure R134a instead of R12. The most common failures I have seen are (a) condenser where a rock or road FOD knocks a hole/crack in the condenser; (b) O-ring failure and most any point and (c) compressor failure. All of the non-compressor parts don't move, so the seals inside there are stressed more and fail more frequently. (3) some vehicles have what is commonly a receiver/dryer that is on the low pressure side. If the R134a connection is on the evap side of that, you can allow liquid refrigerant in (can upside down) with no problem as that is what the accumulator is for, to prevent liquid refrigerant from reaching the compressor. If you are not sure, always keep the can upright if you are running the compressor to introduce refrigerant. You can get a good A/C repair book at most auto parts stores. They give details about proper suction and high-pressure line pressures. But by far the best choice is to have the refrigerant reclaimed, then evacuate with a good vacuum pump for at least 30 minutes to boil off all moisture, then fill with specified amount.
Note that newer cars use much less freon. I drive a Toyota Tacoma that requires 22oz, just under two 12 oz cans. My wife's previous Honda was something like 16oz. If you overfill you can quickly buy a compressor, as they do NOT like liquid in the suction line, it won't compress, and something has to give. At idle, you might feel a very rough idle and squealing belt. If you turn it on while on the highway, you will likely hear a rattle of death at the very least... As others have said, your A/C system is sealed, and freon should never leak. We have a Jeep Grand Cherokee which had a leak in the evaporator, which is in the heater box, behind the dash. The symptom that I saw was that I'd recharge the system with a can of R134A, and two days later, the system wouldn't blow cold anymore. Turns out evaporator leaks are VERY common in Jeep Grand Cherokee's. I had to disassemble the dash, remove the heater box, tear it apart, replace the evaporator, reassemble the box and reinstall it behind the dash, and put the dash back together before I could recharge.
Recharging involves VACUUMING OUT the system (you attach a vaccum pump; you don't want ANY type of gas in there other than 134A), then allow the system to fill to the manufacturer's recommended pressures. I needed to go out to Harbor Freight and pick up an r134A guage set, and rented a vacuum pump from AutoZone. I'm assuming your system is R-134a rather than R-12 if someone offered to refill it for $85. In this case, you can pick up a can of R-134a at discount stores for $10 or sometimes even $8 and do it yourself. Since the system has a leak, try one of the ones with leak sealant added. This is not a good fix, but since getting AC components repaired/replaced is prohibitively expensive, it's probably your only good chance for getting working, affordable AC. By the way, if the system actually is R-12, you can get cheap R-12 from Hong Kong on eBay. Downside is that shipping is usually by sea and takes several months. Otherwise it's basically impossible to get the stuff in the US and most developed countries.
Leaks can take place from the compressor, condenser, evaporator, hoses and dryer. I got a reconditioned compressor for my Suzuki Swift for $100 and it worked fine for a year before going bust. Check the hose and the compressor oil seal. Changing an oil seal shouldn't cost more than $80. Easy solution, I refill refrigerant R134a every 4 months for $25. If, however, you are in Chicago or the mid east and have leakage like I do, then changing the compressor, evaporator, dryer, condenser, labor and refrigerant will set you back by $3000. But in most hot regions of the US, it's the single most important equipment for survival, ahead of the power steering, auto transmission, power this and that. A car AC is not a luxury. Freon is Dupont's trade name for R12 and requires a license to purchase and R134a is Suva. R134a is NOT Freon! Cheapest route is have a professional perform a leak test to determine where it's leaking. It may be as little as a $2 seal leaking and you just pay to have it replaced, the whole system vacuumed down and new refrigerant.
Freon fill kits are cheap enough at a NY auto parts store. I would only add freon if there is some still in the system. Even a few ounces of pressure. My experience is usually; a Schrader valve where you add or check freon pressure a compressor shaft seal, but they do wear out after thousands of miles. very rarely a condenser coil (in front of radiator) even rarer an evaporator (inside car air flow). You can rent a vac pump I am told and usually borrow tools from auto zone for a depostit. It's not rocket science but is engineering. Google it and soon you will have it fixed at a fraction of the cost. Never add liquid freon as it will shatter valves in compressor. Warm can slightly NO FLAME.... And add liquid with system off. Then add gaseous only while running. You may have to bypass the low pressure cutout to get it to come on. Return gas to compressor cools the compressor. Rule of thumb is when suction line to compressor sweats, your gauge has enough gas.