3,977 posts, read 5,078,070 times 678 posts, read 3,714,997 times Trane and American standard are the same company, same unit. As I mentioned before, I wouldnt be too crazy about variable speed in this desert, they really serve no purpose and are very expensive to replace. The Trane and American standard units are fine but just like Carrier, your paying for the name and there are so many other brands out there for less with the same internal parts and same or better warranties. One more thing, dont buy this through the big box store, otherwise you are also paying extra for the middle man. Most important thing is, make sure it's properly sized and that they do a proper install. New gas line, new stand, proper transition, new disconnect box and a proper PVC drain with a proper built in trap. Also, some contractors will try to talk you into using a roof curb and mounting the unit downshot, not a good idea, because it disturbes the roof. Good luck and enjoy your energy savings!

3,286 posts, read 6,172,807 times Originally Posted by macgeek Something doesn't compute here. At 14 SEER, you are looking at units with single-stage cooling and a single-speed fan in the air handler and in the condensing unit. I think you were being lied to about the variable speed fan. 11,535 posts, read 17,087,048 times Originally Posted by tiger08 Buying a HVAC unit is a bit like buying a computer ... there may be many names on the outside BUT the components are generally made by two or three manufacturers.dometic air conditioning units for caravans I am NOT an HVAC professional but my experiences in the past lead me to this believe. ac window units for casement windowsFirst, find a qualified person with good references to install the unit. 3 ton 13 seer air handler

Also, more critical than the brand is to ensure that the unit is properly sized to the area that needs to be cooled. Originally Posted by MediocreButArrogant this unit will have no air handler, it's an all in one package unit. Trane/AS offer the variable speed in what he is researching. Even some of the 13 seer package units have variable speed blowers. One more important thing. Whatever brand you go with, see if you can work out a warranty labor plan for several years. A compressor warranty is just that, compressor. We had a compressor go out on one of our four year old units at our office and all the manufacture did was send a new compressor, we even had to pay shipping! By the time we were done paying for labor and all the extras, we were in it for $1500 bucks! My point being that a long warranty on a new unit is great but does not include labor and a good contractor will usually offer a long labor plan to avoid situations as I just described. 1,464 posts, read 1,986,026 times

Both those A/C Units are good..We have a Lennox here at our home in Conn. Has been an exceptionally hot summer so it has been getting a workout. Our A/C is well over 15 years old and is still running well, good brand. When I worked at the local gas company, we always recommended Trane equipment; don't know if that was because of the profit margin on them or if they were just the best. Would like to think they are the best. Good luck with your choice. Content on this page requires a newer version of Adobe Flash Player. XL20i Systems have a rating up to 20.00 SEER. Trane's Dual Compressor Technology is used in this Premium System. For example, The XL20i 4 ton system has a 4 ton compressor and a 2 ton compressor. Test's in the south Florida market have shown that 80% of the time, the XL20i system will run only on the first stage 2 ton compressor, which uses less than one half the amount of electricity. The 4 ton compressor will turn on only 20% of the time translating into tremendous savings in your Electric Bill usage.

The larger compressor only comes on when It is needed. Florida utility companies are so convinced that this type of system will lower your Electric Bill, and in turn lower their demand for power consumption, that they are willing to pay as much as 2,000 dollars towards your purchase of this Premium System. The XL20i carries a twelve year compressor, and a 10 year all parts warranty. You can use the Finance Calculator on this page to estimate your monthly payments for your new Trane system. You can also estimate the amount of money that you will be saving monthly and yearly, on your electric bill from our Savings Calculator page. In most situations you will notice that the monthly savings from your lower electric bill usage, will exceed the cost of the financing payment. Giving you a new Trane high efficiency system that not only has paid for itself, but will create substansial savings both now and in the future. You will also enjoy the greatest possible humidity control and Cooling comfort for your home possible.

Trane's patented technology far exceeds anything that our competition has to offer. You will have the peace of mind of knowing that you own a 10 Year Full Guarantee on every single part of your new system. If you are still unsure about how much you will actually save, go to our Home Energy Audit page. We will perform a home evaluation for you and let you know exactly what your savings will be. Click here for XL20i Brochure Ships from and sold by Parts Appliance Chicago. Specifications for this item Discover solutions for the workplace Shop all Workplace Solutions Shipping Information: View shipping rates and policies Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #234,827 in Industrial & Scientific (See Top 100 in Industrial & Scientific) in Industrial & Scientific > Material Handling Products > HVAC EquipmentGoodman versus Trane Air Conditioners - The first thing we need to do when comparing a Trane Versus a Goodman air conditioning systems is to make sure we are comparing similar models with similar features.

Each manufacturer makes various models from a builder’s grade unit which is usually the HVAC manufacturer’s cheapest model all the way up to the unit that has bells and whistles and some of these have bells and whistles for the bells and whistles. You simply want to make sure you are comparing apples to apples and not an apple to an orange.The next thing we need to do when comparing HVAC equipment is to look at the HVAC contractor installing the equipment. If you get a lousy installer or contractor forget about name brand because the HVAC system WILL NOT FUNCTION PROPERLY if it is not installed properly. Also, the unit will not have the same life expectancy, will fail prematurely and will need to be replaced sooner than if the HVAC equipment is installed properly in the first place. Out of any buyers advice about air conditioning and heating equipment that someone can give you this is probably the most important part.Goodman versus Trane Air ConditionersGoodman DSXC18 vs. Trane XL20i Premium Models Comparison Matrix - Goodman versus Trane Air ConditionersTrane XL20i Key FeaturesGoodman DSXC18 Air Conditioner Key FeaturesCommunication Ability (optional)ComfortNet™ Communication System compatible (optional)Charge Assist™Trane Comfort R™ Requires matched indoor variable speed blower for humidity controlHumidity control with a matched indoor air handlerTwo-row Spine Fin™ coil – All Aluminum condenser coil.

Copper coils with aluminum finsFull-Side Louvered PanelsFull-Side Louvered PanelsTwo-Stage Cooling (Dual Climatuff® Compressors)Two-stage Scroll Compressor  has two-stage operation for ultimate comfort with lots of diagnostic features for easier troubleshootingMulti-stage Fan – May be an ECM Variable Speed Condenser Fan MotorTwo-Speed Condenser Fan MotorR410A RefrigerantR-410A refrigerantWeather Resistant WeatherGuard™ FastenersRugged durable cabinetSound Insulator on CompressorsEngineered for quiet operationDuraTuff™ Rust Proof Base PanEnhanced diagnostics with diagnostic memory to retain historical air conditioner problems and assist technician air conditioner troubleshooting and repair.10 Year Parts/Coil and 12 year compressor limited warranty10 year parts warranty and a Lifetime limited warranty on the compressorEnergy Star Rated up to 20 SEEREnergy Star Rated up to 18 SEERAs one can tell by reviewing the Goodman Vs Trane comparison matrix things can a little confusing for the average consumer especially with all the techno-descriptions so we’ll do our best to translate all this and break it down for you.

Trane versus Goodman Features DescriptionsCommunication Ability – this is like having a dial up modem attached to you air conditioner. You can dial in from a remote location and see how your system is doing. Changing settings from a remote location is a plus for this one so if you like technical gadgets this option is for you.Charge Assist (Trane Feature) – The numbers are high from the last time I saw the numbers but approximately 50% to 75% of air conditioning equipment have improper charges for one reason or the other. This is a new Trane feature to help the HVAC technician get the charge right which enhances performance and efficiency.Humidity Control – Trane’s Comfort-R and Goodman offer humidity control for the air conditioner or heat pump installation and basically it works like this – for the first five to 10 minutes when the air conditioner starts the fan will run at a reduced speed. The bonus to this feature is that the evaporator coil will remove more humidity from the air when the fan is running at a slower speed.

Humidity removal is very important for comfort in the summer time. Both systems have this feature only with a matched air handler to go with the condenser.Two Row Spine Fin Coil (Trane Feature) – This is typically a Trane feature and it means the coils are spine fin rather than flat fins surrounding a copper tube. Fins increase the surface area of the coils and thereby increase the heat exchange efficiency of the coils. Trane uses all aluminum coils with spine fins while Goodman uses copper coils with aluminum fins which is industry standard. It’s a toss up with these two options has the heat exchange ratios are very close however I would lean towards the copper coils in the Goodman system over the aluminum coils in the Trane as copper is more durable than aluminum. The industry is changing slowly to all aluminum coils but everyone is not there yet.Full Side Louvered Panels – These panels are necessary to protect the coils from damage.Two-Stage Cooling – Trane has two compressors for two-stage operation while the Goodman uses a single two-stage scroll compressor for staging.

Both compressor systems are reliable and have proven themselves over time.Multi-Stage Fan/Variable Speed ECM Blower and Condenser Fan Motors – In high SEER equipment it is recommended to have the variable speed ECM blower and condenser fan motors for efficient operation of both the blower motor and the condenser fan motor. Just because the motor is and ECM blower motor or an ECM condenser fan motor does not mean it is variable speed. That all depends on the control of the motor but an ECM motor can be staged depending on the controls and the ECM motors are more efficient than the standard PSC motors in high use throughout the HVAC industry. This is high SEER equipment in both the Trane and the Goodman so these motors should be ECM motors.Refrigerant – R-410A is used in both Goodman and Trane so no difference between the two brands with refrigerants.Weather Resistant/Sound Features/Base Pan Features – These are self-explanatory and definitely a plus especially on the sound levels which happens to be one of the biggest complaints about new HVAC equipment.

Enhanced Diagnostics (Goodman Listed Feature) – This is a good feature and these advanced diagnostic features usually help the technician find a problem fast but not always. Trane does require their dealers to attend regular Trane technical seminars and offers NATE classes to help all the technicians become NATE certified in a specific HVAC technical area of expertise. Carrier also offers training seminars for their dealers along with other technical classes including NATE classes.Goodman versus Trane Air Conditioners Warranties – Both Trane and Goodman warranties are good warranties. Make sure you get a good installer to install either system.Energy Star Rated – Both Goodman and Trane are Energy Star rated.Buying ExperienceBuying a Trane is like going to a cafeteria where you can pick and choose the options and components you want for your air conditioner system. Of course, if you want the rated efficiency on the condenser you would be smart to match it with the appropriate air handler otherwise you would not see the efficiency level rating on the condenser.

It would also make sense to get good IAQ and purchase the optional electronic air cleaner and the whole house humidifier which will save you money in the winter. Of course, all this will add to the final price of the system but why buy a Cadillac without the bells and whistles? The Goodman system is the same as Trane where one can buy it piece by piece. It is always recommended with high SEER equipment that matching equipment be installed. This means the air handler should be matched to the condenser to get the rated efficiency levels listed on the equipment.Pros and ConsAfter looking over all the pros and cons and features of the Trane Air Conditioner and the Goodman Air Conditioner it is a close call and the deciding factor for me will be the contractor. Again, the golden rule for any type of HVAC work is the correct installation of the equipment.  Depending on the area where you live the Goodman air conditioner price could beat the Trane air conditioner price for installation.ConclusionOne last thing about buying an air conditioner is replacement parts.